Progressing Through Difficult Conversation | Congressman Adam Smith | EP 395
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with lawyer, state representative, and author Adam Smith. They discuss his new book “Lost and Broken: My Journey Back from Chronic Pain and Crippling Anxiety.” From this they explore the differences between cognitive and behavioral therapy, the dogmatization of nuance, the rise of “harm reduction” in the current era of identity politics, and the ideal goal of argument: it’s much more than just scoring points.
Congressman Adam Smith is an American lawyer and politician, having served in the Washington state senate from 1991 to 97. His new book, “Lost and Broken: My Journey Back from Chronic Pain and Crippling Anxiety,” has just recently been released.
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(0:00) Coming up
(0:37) Intro
(1:27) The first sitting Democrat to come on the show
(2:34) Smith’s approach to politics
(5:04) The point of an argument
(6:40) “getting away” with speaking to the opposition
(11:35) When you are shown to be wrong
(15:01) Insecurity, resilience, and balance
(17:23) Scoring a point, the negotiation of a settlement
(21:37) Why you cannot define yourself and live in a shared reality
(25:11) Racism: the conservative and liberal divide
(29:53) When does the left go too far? (Finally answered?)
(42:28) Agency and hope
(48:05) Why you must correct your children, despite their feelings
(50:35) Systemic racism, the miracle of western progress
(55:22) The principle idea of America, a history of discrimination
(1:03:03) Focused on language over actions
(1:06:13) Taking notice, broadening the demographic
(1:08:23) The actual outcome of equity
(1:14:43) Abstracting the problem
(1:15:30) Thinking is hard work, conversation is thinking with people you might disagree with
(1:19:13) Processing stress, maximizing proximal challenge
(1:23:50) Letting go of your idea of success
(1:27:42) Self worth is not a score, it’s a range of potential
(1:32:56) The biggest issue with behavioral therapy in America
(1:33:55) The greatest realization that comes with healthy self worth
(1:38:11) Painful humility is required for the tiniest step forward
(1:40:13) The downside of meritocracy
(1:42:26) The SAT’s, vision, and hard work
(1:47:58) Thoughts on Trump and Biden’s’ refusal to debate
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