Stormzy & Rick Rubin i-N Conversation

@stormzy’s new album, This Is What I Mean, was three years and a pandemic in the making. We sat down with Stormzy and the founder of the original Def Jam label, Rick Rubin, to listen to the album in full. 00:00 - Intro 05:54 - Fire Water 07:43 - Fire Water 09:00 - Fire Water 10:27 - This Is What I Mean 14:02 - Fire Babe 16:42 - Please 18:12 - Sampha’s Plea 19:16 - Need You 20:11 - Hide & Seek 21:43 - My Presidents Are Black 23:59 - Holy Spirit 25:51 - Bad Blood 26:25 - I Got My Smile Back 27:30 - Give it to The Water They first spoke the day before the start of the recording sessions for the album — where Rick offered him advice — but here they meet for the first time to discuss the artistic process Stormzy went through putting the album together. Over an afternoon spent listening to the album and talking, they discuss everything from defying the audience’s expectations of you, being creatively selfish in the best poss